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Age · Feb 20, 2009, 10:03 PM // 22:03

I would if I was a US citizen think of all those in Detroit who are going to lose thier jops in next few weeks.How are thier kids going to play games if the internet gets cut to save cost as there is a mortage to pay which is more important.

RedNova88 · Feb 20, 2009, 10:33 PM // 22:33

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Specifically, the suit claims that NCsoft has infringed on patent 7,181,690, "System and Method for Enabling Users to Interact in a Virtual Space"

So they're going to sue every company with a game that has multiplayer of any sort? Watch out guys! They're gonna SUE YOU! This patent is far too broad to be taken seriously.

http://www.google.com/patents?id=wv5...J&dq=7,181,690

MMSDome · Feb 20, 2009, 10:48 PM // 22:48

Best of luck to Worlds.com with their lawsuit, they actually have a point and have a chance to make some good money off this and I respect them for that. Hopefully they get what they deserve!

Deathlok · Feb 21, 2009, 12:30 AM // 00:30

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Originally Posted by MMSDome

Best of luck to Worlds.com with their lawsuit, they actually have a point and have a chance to make some good money off this and I respect them for that. Hopefully they get what they deserve!

let me guess, you would say the exact same thing when someone sues McDonald's because they (McD's) made them fat.

That lawsuit is ridiculous.

Lishy · Feb 21, 2009, 01:15 AM // 01:15

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Originally Posted by MMSDome

Best of luck to Worlds.com with their lawsuit, they actually have a point and have a chance to make some good money off this and I respect them for that. Hopefully they get what they deserve!

Yes, worlds.com deserves much more and it is companies and violators like NCSoft why we have such a bad economy and rippoffs of creations

MMSDome · Feb 21, 2009, 02:06 AM // 02:06

I like taking supporting the unpopular side

Regina Buenaobra · Feb 21, 2009, 02:21 AM // 02:21

Y'all are awesome. :-) Thank you for the support and the offer of help. We appreciate it, but we've gotta let the legal system do its work.

RedNova88 · Feb 21, 2009, 03:44 AM // 03:44

To the people supporting worlds.com... Are you for real? Are car companies going to get sued because KARL BENZ DID IT FIIIIRRRRRST! Really, the patent is far too broad to be taken seriously. They'd have to sue Linden Labs, Blizzard, Turbine, NetDevil, SoE, CCP, NCsoft, Arenanet, and every other company that has an MMO which is just ridiculous. On top of this, from the wording of their patent it seems like they could go so far as to sue any companies that had games with online capabilities period. Am I missing something or is this really as stupid as it seems?

Reverend Dr · Feb 21, 2009, 03:53 AM // 03:53

Remember to point out to the legal team that GW is also a 4D game.

In all seriousness while we do understand why NCSoft does not have full disclosure during current legal proceedings, there are a number of us that are very interested in this case. Not just for NCSoft, but as well this is a rather president setting case in the MMO world; any information that can be given on these legal proceedings is appreciated.

Gun Pierson · Feb 21, 2009, 04:31 AM // 04:31

I've been reading up on this case and it seems world.com is just a patent troll. If you visit their website you see some crap. Yes they did some stuff in the ninetees, but they were waiting it out last 8 years or so to get rich fast by this suit instead of working for their money and innovate.

The patent seems way to unspecific and indeed would practically concern every online game since 1996. They asked to 'repatent' it in 2001 and it took 8 years before it was approved. A flaw in the system it got passed in the first place say experts.

Every judge with common sense would burry the troll. Problem is this is Texas and we all know what comes from Texas and I don't see horns

All joking aside, what the hell NCsoft, what are you doing in Texas!?

BoondockSaint · Feb 21, 2009, 06:05 AM // 06:05

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Originally Posted by MMSDome

I like taking supporting the unpopular side

There is nothing wrong with rooting for the underdog and what not, but this, from what I have read, is a frivelous lawsuit. The kind that has been wrecking havock within our legal system forever. While I have not read all the case work, it would seem the worlds.com is looking for a handout, and really has no case. But as the saying goes, a good lawyer makes "the weaker argument stronger and the stronger appear weaker."

The most intreasting conclusion would be if worlds.com wins, without an out of court settlement. The precedent that will be established would be very intreasting, not just in terms of all the other online games but also in terms of patent laws.

EDIT: just on a side note, while this is primarly a judical issue, if this issue gets big congressmen often get involved. I work for our senator here in FL and assuming they work the same way in Texas, congressmen and senators are often called upon to voice their support or opposition if they get enough response. But like I said, it has to be BIG. I.E the Terry Shivo case, internet gambling, and a few others have occured here.

I seriously doubt that this will happen unless the case develops way beyond online games, such as allowing patent laws that are way to lenent, as I had mentioned above.

Giga_Gaia · Feb 21, 2009, 08:23 AM // 08:23

Like many have already said, this is a bogus lawsuit that really has no merit. If worlds.com does win this case, then I will have lost all hope for this world and all of humanity

Aleta · Feb 23, 2009, 08:16 PM // 20:16

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Originally Posted by MMSDome

Best of luck to Worlds.com with their lawsuit, they actually have a point and have a chance to make some good money off this and I respect them for that. Hopefully they get what they deserve!

Which is exactly nothing; nothing at all.

From KainFZ

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Yes, worlds.com deserves much more and it is companies and violators like NCSoft why we have such a bad economy and rippoffs of creations

Hardly /smacks head

Chthon · Feb 24, 2009, 04:00 AM // 04:00

Petitioning the court isn't going to get you anywhere.

If you want to make an impact on this case with a petition of some sort, here's what it should say:

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Originally Posted by Proposed Petition

To: NCSoft
CC: worlds.com

Dear NCSoft,

We support you in your battle against the patent troll worlds.com. That is why we promise to boycott any products from which you agree to pay worlds.com a percentage of the profits. Furthermore, if you reach an undisclosed settlement with worlds.com, we will assume that you agreed to give worlds.com a percentage of the profits from all future games, and we will boycott all future games.

Sincerely,

Your fans

I bet you're asking right now, "how the flying RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO is that going to help NCSoft?", aren't you?

Well, here's how: This lawsuit has no merit. Its value to worlds.com lies in that the cost to NCSoft of paying the legal bills to fight the suit may exceed the cost of just giving worlds.com an undeserved cut of the money. We the fans can deprive worlds.com's suit of that in terrorem value (annoyance value) by increasing the cost to NCSoft of giving in to the point that giving in ceases to be a rational option. If the cost to NCSoft of buying off worlds.com plus the cost of losing sales to a boycott exceeds the cost of fighting the suit, then NCSoft's best option will be to fight. And if worlds.com knows that NCSoft's best option is to fight, then their best option is to give up.

There's a (false) legend about Cortez that he burned his ships upon landing in the Yucatan, so that both his soldiers and his foes would know that there would be no retreat or agreed-upon withdrawal -- it was victory or death. His men were motivated; and the Aztecs surrendered. Consider promising to boycott NCSoft if they settle with worlds.com as burning their ships for them.

Society · Feb 24, 2009, 08:42 AM // 08:42

Heh... How 'bout patenting of creation "patent troll" companies) ?

headlesshobbs · Feb 25, 2009, 10:45 AM // 10:45

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Originally Posted by MMSDome

Best of luck to Worlds.com with their lawsuit, they actually have a point and have a chance to make some good money off this and I respect them for that. Hopefully they get what they deserve!

A swift kick in the *** I hope.

Red Sonya · Feb 27, 2009, 08:53 AM // 08:53

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How are thier kids going to play games if the internet gets cut to save cost as there is a mortage to pay which is more important.

And I'm like...who cares?! kids should spend more time outside and doing chores than playing online computer games. I think they should make playing some games on the internet 18 or older myself.

Especially mmo/mmorpgs. A thumb print should be required to logon and thumb prints taken of everyone at birth so they will always know how old yah are.

Then if you ain't 18 you ain't playin.

Sjeng · Feb 27, 2009, 12:09 PM // 12:09

I'm glad you aren't in the government. I loved playing my C64 games when I was a kid. (I played outside too FYI.)

Ctb · Feb 27, 2009, 07:48 PM // 19:48

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I think they should make playing some games on the internet 18 or older myself ... thumb prints taken of everyone at birth

I'm don't know what country you're in, but in the U.S. at least that might bring up more than just a few minor Constitutional quibbles.

KZaske · Feb 27, 2009, 08:17 PM // 20:17

To add to what Chthon said above, with a different twist. One way that worlds.com benefits is by stock price. The more the company’s name is mentioned in the news and on the internet the better the chance of appearing as a good investment opportunity. We can fight that by making NCSoft appear to be a better investment. If you post, or have a blog where this law suit would be mentioned, just refer to worlds.com by an accurate term, like “un-named patent troll.” That will denies worlds.com name recognition by the public that reads your post or blog or what ever.
A boycott of NCSoft would be counter productive. As I see it they (NCSoft) needs our support now more than ever. Patent trolls have won several questionable law suits with less validity in that jurisdiction. Loosing is a very real possibility.
Alas about the only way we really can help is if you have knowledge of a specific application that could be used to prove prior art, by all means post the application’s name, the publisher/developer’s name here. Let the legal department investigate it and move forward as they see fit. I remember reading about Virtual Worlds way back in the late 1980s but the majority of those worlds never materialized.